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		<title>By: Ethnic Will</title>
		<link>http://www.ethnicavenue.com/ethnic-review-of-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethnic Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a mouthful. Don&#039;t even get me started on so-called historical movies. I can&#039;t even bear to talk about movies like Amistad or 300. There oughta be a law.

While I agree that, in a way, the White guy was a net &lt;em&gt;zero &lt;/em&gt;(not the internet service), since he merely canceled out the damage done by other White people, I think the planet saved itself only because &lt;em&gt;he &lt;/em&gt;interceded. It&#039;s hard to deny that he was presented as the White savior. And, while people might relate to that character, he still comes from a fundamentally condescending place.

I&#039;m all for a little propaganda in my movies, since it exposes the otherwise ignorant plebs to messages they would otherwise ignore or not even get in their corporate-ass media. Is that elitist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a mouthful. Don&#8217;t even get me started on so-called historical movies. I can&#8217;t even bear to talk about movies like Amistad or 300. There oughta be a law.</p>
<p>While I agree that, in a way, the White guy was a net <em>zero </em>(not the internet service), since he merely canceled out the damage done by other White people, I think the planet saved itself only because <em>he </em>interceded. It&#8217;s hard to deny that he was presented as the White savior. And, while people might relate to that character, he still comes from a fundamentally condescending place.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for a little propaganda in my movies, since it exposes the otherwise ignorant plebs to messages they would otherwise ignore or not even get in their corporate-ass media. Is that elitist?</p>
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		<title>By: pastavangelist</title>
		<link>http://www.ethnicavenue.com/ethnic-review-of-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>pastavangelist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked Pocahontas too, when it was dumbed down and given a cheesy ending for Disney viewers.  The real Pocahontas converted to Christianity and was paraded around England as proof that the Natives could be &quot;civilized&quot;.  The movie had a happy ending, but we know how things turned out for the Native Americans.  At least with Avatar, it&#039;s not trying to sanitize an actual part of our guilty history.  

And about the &quot;ethnic&quot;-looking faces of the natives in Avatar, I think there would be more complaining about racism if they looked European.  Hell, I would be complaining if they looked European.  The main character is white because he is supposed to represent European colonialism/imperialism.  The natives looked African/Native American with Animist/Pantheist beliefs because they represented the people who were exploited and treated like sub-humans during European colonialism.  So I don&#039;t see the problem.

If the symbolism was a little obvious, then maybe that works for the movie&#039;s favor.  I loved District 9 but not many people who saw it had any idea that it was a metaphor for anything.  Some people I spoke to had no idea what Apartheid or Bantustans were, and didn&#039;t even know where Palestine was located let alone that there is a segregation wall being built around it.  Avatar is a metaphor for so many past and current conflicts that it could mean something different for anyone in the world.

Personally I didn&#039;t think that the white guy was saving the Natives.  The planet saved herself in the end.  I viewed the white guy as someone who could help them understand the humans and know their weaknesses, and spot their lies.  If white people see this movie and identify with the &quot;white hero&quot;, why is that a bad thing?  It sends the message that you don&#039;t need to view the world as &quot;my race against theirs&quot;.  If you have the upper hand over someone else, you don&#039;t need to exploit them, you can help them... and helping doesn&#039;t mean helping them to become more like you, sometimes it means helping them NOT become like you.  

Peoples all over the world are trying to hang on to their ancient traditions, and resist the globalization of materialist culture.  They are on the defensive while multi-national corporations are on the offensive.  Just because I am part of the western materialist culture, that doesn&#039;t mean I can&#039;t sympathize with the the oppressed, exploited, and marginalized peoples around the world.  Any movie that promotes environmentalism, humanitarianism, tolerance, and resisting oppression can&#039;t be that bad.

Yes the dialogue could have been better, but I liked the predictability.  It has been sooo long since I&#039;ve seen an environmentalist film that was truly uplifting.  I&#039;m so used to hopeless endings that the happy ending in Avatar was actually a pleasant surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked Pocahontas too, when it was dumbed down and given a cheesy ending for Disney viewers.  The real Pocahontas converted to Christianity and was paraded around England as proof that the Natives could be &#8220;civilized&#8221;.  The movie had a happy ending, but we know how things turned out for the Native Americans.  At least with Avatar, it&#8217;s not trying to sanitize an actual part of our guilty history.  </p>
<p>And about the &#8220;ethnic&#8221;-looking faces of the natives in Avatar, I think there would be more complaining about racism if they looked European.  Hell, I would be complaining if they looked European.  The main character is white because he is supposed to represent European colonialism/imperialism.  The natives looked African/Native American with Animist/Pantheist beliefs because they represented the people who were exploited and treated like sub-humans during European colonialism.  So I don&#8217;t see the problem.</p>
<p>If the symbolism was a little obvious, then maybe that works for the movie&#8217;s favor.  I loved District 9 but not many people who saw it had any idea that it was a metaphor for anything.  Some people I spoke to had no idea what Apartheid or Bantustans were, and didn&#8217;t even know where Palestine was located let alone that there is a segregation wall being built around it.  Avatar is a metaphor for so many past and current conflicts that it could mean something different for anyone in the world.</p>
<p>Personally I didn&#8217;t think that the white guy was saving the Natives.  The planet saved herself in the end.  I viewed the white guy as someone who could help them understand the humans and know their weaknesses, and spot their lies.  If white people see this movie and identify with the &#8220;white hero&#8221;, why is that a bad thing?  It sends the message that you don&#8217;t need to view the world as &#8220;my race against theirs&#8221;.  If you have the upper hand over someone else, you don&#8217;t need to exploit them, you can help them&#8230; and helping doesn&#8217;t mean helping them to become more like you, sometimes it means helping them NOT become like you.  </p>
<p>Peoples all over the world are trying to hang on to their ancient traditions, and resist the globalization of materialist culture.  They are on the defensive while multi-national corporations are on the offensive.  Just because I am part of the western materialist culture, that doesn&#8217;t mean I can&#8217;t sympathize with the the oppressed, exploited, and marginalized peoples around the world.  Any movie that promotes environmentalism, humanitarianism, tolerance, and resisting oppression can&#8217;t be that bad.</p>
<p>Yes the dialogue could have been better, but I liked the predictability.  It has been sooo long since I&#8217;ve seen an environmentalist film that was truly uplifting.  I&#8217;m so used to hopeless endings that the happy ending in Avatar was actually a pleasant surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I liked it: when it was called Pocahontas, the Lion King, and Warcraft the game.&quot;
I&#039;d like to add one: Princess Mononoke
it&#039;s an animated film by Hayao Miyazaki released in 1997 - visually, aurally and contentwise striking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I liked it: when it was called Pocahontas, the Lion King, and Warcraft the game.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;d like to add one: Princess Mononoke<br />
it&#8217;s an animated film by Hayao Miyazaki released in 1997 &#8211; visually, aurally and contentwise striking.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>visually, aurally and content-wise</description>
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		<title>By: Sloane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sloane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus, the very obvious references to Vietnam/Apocalypse Now (a.k.a. the only war against the natives white people ever felt like apologizing for, and its twentieth century movie representation) don&#039;t make up for the fact that the whole movie feels like a advertisement for the military. After all, what would Jake have done without the strength and opportunities given to him by the Marines, blah blah blah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, the very obvious references to Vietnam/Apocalypse Now (a.k.a. the only war against the natives white people ever felt like apologizing for, and its twentieth century movie representation) don&#8217;t make up for the fact that the whole movie feels like a advertisement for the military. After all, what would Jake have done without the strength and opportunities given to him by the Marines, blah blah blah.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethnic Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethnic Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know. It&#039;s like naming your $573-million blockbuster &quot;naked college girls.&quot; Imagine trying to find that one on Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know. It&#8217;s like naming your $573-million blockbuster &#8220;naked college girls.&#8221; Imagine trying to find that one on Google.</p>
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		<title>By: marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to mention how hard it is to Google this movie, there are zillions of oooooooo between the G and the GLE. And not to out myself too much... the joint medical and scientific program from the movie was called AVTR: http://avtr.com/ get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention how hard it is to Google this movie, there are zillions of oooooooo between the G and the GLE. And not to out myself too much&#8230; the joint medical and scientific program from the movie was called AVTR: <a href="http://avtr.com/" rel="nofollow">http://avtr.com/</a> get it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ethnic Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethnic Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, in most cases, it would be more entertaining to spend $300 on a cheap camera and then record how a ghetto-ass person would spend the other $572,999,700!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, in most cases, it would be more entertaining to spend $300 on a cheap camera and then record how a ghetto-ass person would spend the other $572,999,700!</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, patching together different movies into a brand &quot;new&quot; title is something we&#039;ve been doing in India for years and years!  Most Hindi movies are a combination of a minimum of two, and up to 18, other movies, usually foreign.  In fact, I think this is actually good, experimental science as we&#039;re trying to prove that combining movies, in the limit of infinity, will actually yield a brand new, *original* work.  Just imagine a movie with every single line and scene being from a different movie... all rendered in stunning 3D with a $573 million budget, of course! It can&#039;t possibly miss!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, patching together different movies into a brand &#8220;new&#8221; title is something we&#8217;ve been doing in India for years and years!  Most Hindi movies are a combination of a minimum of two, and up to 18, other movies, usually foreign.  In fact, I think this is actually good, experimental science as we&#8217;re trying to prove that combining movies, in the limit of infinity, will actually yield a brand new, *original* work.  Just imagine a movie with every single line and scene being from a different movie&#8230; all rendered in stunning 3D with a $573 million budget, of course! It can&#8217;t possibly miss!!! <img src='http://www.ethnicavenue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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